Oil, a user of some not as common neopronouns, had this to say, I use a lot of neopronouns but the main ones I like and use are nyaself, girself, purrself, xemself, crayonself, and pawself! you CAN NOT claim to not be homophobic or ableist if you dont support/believe @Axie_ArtlTwitter: @iiChessYTDiscord: https://discord.gg/3h6KwPV And what does the word "valid" mean, can you define it? Actually, I'monly answering at least after a month or two after I've read this anddecided to answer (and this probably wasn't even the first time I've seen this, I probably just ignored this before, but don't remember, maybe not), I usually wastoo tired for a text this long or too emotionalat your wording to answer, Edit: well, some of this is just a dislike of terminology though, Edit 2: i mean, saying xenogenders areoutside of human understanding isn't offensive, as it was in the original definition and it's how some xenogender people define it, though i think you should use the whole definition and not just the most confusing part of it in the case (and i personally still dislikeit though) Yeti personally find calling xenogenders "hyperspecific" offensive, Also, it may be a bit too late, but i don't think questioning people's gender is fun, and i think it's better to rename the topic. Saying autism is a gender is harmful to people with autism like me. This is where I'm at too. From what I understand, Xenogenders are hyperspecific genders that describe someone's gender in a way that is outside of human understanding. Friendly reminder that under current ToS, we don't allow invalidation of anyone's identity, be they standard or esoteric. This means that on AVEN y Its valid to use your chosen genders pronouns. Some qualify as genders and some dont. I am currently in my 3rd year of writinga new type of educational LGBTQIA+ book aiming to help people achieve a better understanding of the community through stories and other writing. However, it is primarily LGBT+ people, particularly nonbinary people, who use them currently. Being otherkin means you feel like a mythical creature like a angel. The other genders are lesser known coins that are not used as widely. Some peoples gender changes over time.. Xenogenders require some tiny effort from others, but it does require something from others which exists outside of normal lexicons. Just like other words LGBTQ+ folks use, its my personal assertion that people who identified with xenogenders existed before the words themselves - Genderfluid people existed before the term was used, lesbians existed before the term was used, etc. You arent laying out a conclusion. This means that on AVEN you can't make the argument that xenogenders aren't valid. I can slightly understand this label, however, when I hear terms such as Cloudgender meaning a gender like a cloud, or Treegender, meaning a gender like a tree, then that's where I get kind of lost, and start to question whether or not these identies are valid. Yes, they are valid, but this is not a discussion worth having. I personally have trouble using neopronouns and don't quite understand xenogenders but I will never. Everything is valid, all human experiences are valid. I do know there's massive debate elsewhere. Some of it isn't pleasant from both the cis-norma OB Feb 2, 2021 at 10:23 pm. People who use Xenogenders to get into the LGBTQIA+ community do not experience gender dysphoria. If you have more that the cards and thread do not answer please feel free to @ mention or quote me it. You dont have to understand in order to be respectful. These are called neurogenders, and most of them are not described on this page, but on the neurogender page. Doing so outside of being nb would actually be akin to identifying as goth in the way that you mentioned. (For example, binary trans people use these as well, and using a xenogender doesn't make them a nonbinary person.). why bother punching down to other trans people you dont understand or care for, when you can simply mind your own business or take time to learn about why they might feel this way. So having concepts such as cloud gender don't really make any sense, but man/woman do make sense, as well as non-binary which is a rejection of both of these groups. When you get to the whole issue about whether they should be a part of general everyday gender discussion them I don't think it's common enough or relevant enough to hold space at that broader level. You arent laying out an argument. if you are trans, why can you not accept those who are also trans, but describe their gender in ways In reality xenogenders are pretty similar to just different "identities" people have, such as goth or furry or stuff like that. This would be volunteer work, I have no resources to pay translators at the moment. I find it funny that some people get so upset about this stuff while a large majority of the population , myself included, do not understand a word of what you just wrote. But some people dont neatly fit into the categories of man or woman, or male or female. For example, some people have a gender that blends elements of being a man or a woman, or a gender that is different than either male or female. I think some of them are legit, and some are just clout-chasing. I have no way of knowing which is which, but if xenogenders become widely accepted Not because xenogenders are themselves genders, but because anyone who adopts a xenogender must already be nonbinary by definition. But is that what xenogenders are, or are they an earnest effort by people to define themselves in a way that make sense to them? Your previous content has been restored. due to both of them and every term under them being neogenders."[3]. It can be complicated, but xenogenders are often described as feeling like objects, sensations, songs, feelings, concepts, etc. I thought xe/xem pronouns were easy and sounded good on me. I am a medically transitioned trans woman. I do not identify as xenogender, but I recognise these things inside me. Some xenogender terms make inst Gender is very difficult to objectively measure, while sex is an objective measurement. Sorry i didnt mean it like the LGBTQIA+ community is a club or whatever. Some even started mocking neopronouns by putting things such as didnt/ask, or shut/up in their bios on the app. The MOGAI community Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. That doesnt exclude genders that fall under Xenogender, Aesthetigender, etc. Ethereum is transexual because it is also accepted widely. Its a way for people to express their gender identity. They continued, People who blatantly bash neopronouns should read up more about what it really is, because they have no right to bash another persons gender identity pronouns just because it doesnt fit the norm. So Xenogenders mock the LGBTQ+ and the neurodivergent community. Ringo: I have a xenogender! (Or, they want to act like males, but cant because their body presents as female - however those folk arent part of my argument. She and he pronouns were okay but didnt fit right exactly. https://xenogenderwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Why_xenogenders_are_valid Lots of people; lots of differences. LEGAL INNOVATION | Tu Agente Digitalizador; LEGAL3 | Gestin Definitiva de Despachos; LEGAL GOV | Gestin Avanzada Sector Pblico Xenogenders that identify with animals do not mean that if you identify with them you identify as a cat, though this is a common misconception. For that reason, Ashe said this before, but, people who are xenogender are probably unlikely to respond as well, and may just think this is just a thread to mock xenogenders. Everyone defines their own xenogender differently! They should get psychological help to figure out the root cause of their issues. But xenogender is not the same as otherkin. That's something different. Treegender and cloudgender, as I said, xenogenders arr very personal for each person, so the definitions I bring up will likely not be the same case for everyone! Webyes, it is. Xenogenders are so individualistically defined its surprisingly hard to have a good definition besides identifying outside of the preconceived feminine, masculine, androgyne and neutral! Press J to jump to the feed. That's transphobic. Ah wow Im surprised my thread is well enough to help people understand hahah <-< /lh /pos But hey! @LGBTAtreyu i am more than happy to expla It is a great tool that many use to express their individuality and how they feel they are inside, and was originally intended to help neurodivergent people discuss their gender with others. If you have anything to contribute to this project, please get in touch by contacting me through one of these websites. list of xenogenders carrd? Press J to jump to the feed. The name we have collectively given the process of changing your external appearance to match your internal self is changing genders. It could be called penguin farts, the point isnt what the name is, just that it has a name. A Xenogender is a gender that is made for peoples interests/struggles. A form of self expression often used by neruodivergent people. isnt the root of transphobia. As a person with a non-standard mating strategy, this puts you as a type of LGBT+. cat-gender doesn't mean that person identifies as a cat.) I thought xe/xem pronouns were easy and sounded good on me. Once again, theres no reason you should be against other trans people finding new ways of expression that make them happy. It also includes genders that were given definitions in or after 2000, as long as there was no strong implied definition and/or it was used to Identity is something assigned by other people. Isabel Wosina Apr 9, 2021 at 3:58 pm. I am a citizen because other citizens agree I am. Prince Harry's memoirs came out on January 10 and do not stop making waves. Neopronouns recently became a topic to debate on the social media platform TikTok. identifying as a concept, animal, object or interest doesnt come with any dysphoria or genuine connection to gender. Everything is valid, all human experiences are valid. TMBR is a place where we can discuss controversial topics freely and explore various ideas and opinions. Most people including most transgender people are either male or female. assimilation is not gonna stop transphobia or transmisogyny. believe me. Hey, that could be Cottoncandygender! Do you consider Disney World to be the "happiest place on Earth? More general trans/nonbinary information. A Spanish translation is especially wanted, but any other language is also welcomed. From the time that were young, were taught that there are only hers and hims. 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