Beats conquering, right? . After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. East Africa is a great target. This area is very wealthy and contains the Islamic Holy cities of Mekka and Medina. I always do a little DLC recommendation to make the run more fun previously I recommended Cradle of Civilization and Rights of Man. Press J to jump to the feed. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. How to beat Ottomans as Poland It is 1505, I annexed Danzig, Mazovia, Lithuania as a junior partner, and Austrians as my allies. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. In the late game, at military tech 19 (for infantry) and tech 18 (for cavalry) The Ottoman units will have less unit pips compared to the western tech group. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. Make the war goal something I can take and defend easily; the goal is not to defeat them utterly as they have ridiculous numbers to be able to siege them out completely at first. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. . New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. . The Ottomans are hard to take down the longer you leave them undisturbed. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. Europa Universalis IV starts on November 11th 1444, . Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. Tbh, quality troops will usually win wars against the Ottomans. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. It's expensive, and it hurts, but you can absolutely kill them that way. Who are your allies? You can do this again and again, until they reach stab -3 (they will stab up though, if they can, but just keep going). Right. Make sure you get enough ships. You can easily take down some enemy stacks trying to avoid your blob army for some additional WE. At the time the achievement fired it was all of France and Netherlands essentially. I encountered some issues in my own run that couldve jeopardized the progress of this guide. All rights reserved. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Since you cant annex vassals during the war, use your moments of peace to start the process. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Just take as much provinces as you can. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. Of note, Ottomans actually lose lucky nation status in 1700. Look around Ottoman. We also established footholds in Persia, Egypt, Libya, and the Caucasus, which we can use to expand further. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) . Make sure to at least take Pest for theBibliotheca Corvinanagreat project. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission to. Make your way towards the Holy Roman Empire to go there where the real-life Ottomans couldnt: Vienna. Honestly, when I want to kill them, I just don't stop declaring war. After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. Getting the war goal and war score to go up, gives the chance for a good peace deal which makes them weaker and every following war with them easier. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. 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Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. Like my Burgundian Conquest run, where I was super rich and powerful, but my nation was not much bigger than France is at the start. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. What can you guys suggest? Fortunately, the Tunisians cant be everywhere at once. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Are the Mamluks still around? Only having 49k is little. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. Who would win? Press J to jump to the feed. But the amount of micro is through the roof. The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Cav are kinda weak at techs 14 to 16, making their cav combat ability less scary (they also miss a cav upgrade at 14). Get 100% warscore and make the release Byzantium or take Constantinople and Edrine to cut them in half (you can core these two provinces). Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. Set them as a nation of interest and pay close attention to their wars. Press J to jump to the feed. as soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. How do you trigger Byzantium being formed? Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. They don't get an infantry upgrade at 15 like western nations do. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. My troops always seem to suck and lose equal manpower battles, maybe I need to read up more on how it all works :'), Yeah no dlc yet but I'll keep that in mind for next game, thanks :). Just take the province when you fight a war with the state that happens to own it, like Sindh or Gujarat. If I put all of my allies into one battle (Me, France, Venice, Nogai, Genoa) then I might have a chance, but now I've had to dissolve the Venice alliance so I didn't get dragged into a war with just me and Venice. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. Aside from this generic advice, be sure to check whether you can accidentally vassalize your allies. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. We need at least one province deep Persian territory . Simply declare war for your permanent claim on Caffa, and take your cores back. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. The best way to beat any AI is to let them bleed all their manpower in small stacks, so try to and block the Bosporus if you have naval advantage and let small stacks through (small here being less than 20k or so), then wipe them with a numerical advantage. JavaScript is disabled. Once they do, you attack. I took Tripoli, Jerba, Susa, and Tunis and gave everything south of that to Fezzan. Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. They will then continually build more troops there for you to destroy. In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! I'd probably invade Ottomans when they're busy fighting multiple wars and you might even be lucky enough for separatists to break off small chunks of their empire. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is. The goal is that even when they move their capital into anatolia, they will not have direct land connections to their overseas provinces (hello 75% autonomy), and they won't be able to move across the strait over land without getting mil access from you. Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. 1.18 Kilwa -> Italy 85% reduced coring cost One-tag WC, 1.19 Aztec True One-tag WC AAR (complete), 1.20 Theravada SpanishBritalianFrancoPrussian Holy Roman Emperor of China One-tag, Sail On, Ceylon - A Non-European Colonial AAR for EU4. A mysterious list, a small Hungarian town, and unimaginable horror. For more information, please see our Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. However, always have an army ready in case you need it for war. Sometimes even the mighty Ottomans get in over their head. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. No you're not. If their manpower gets low and/or they're in multiple wars, the time might be right to pile on. Last game i played as france and struggled to fight the ottoman military, simply from the overwhelming manpower. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. The Otto's will refuse that peace deal, but suffer a stability hit. Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? You need to provide at least cursory information about your situation if you want help. Late game - wait until their troop strength falls below western strength. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. Helping out AI friends and building up long term rivalries and friendships can break the monotony. You can now complete the missions. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. If he goes for other nations, it's just easier for you to carpet siege all the forts you want. They hit a mid game power peak typically that's hard to beat, this is not the best time to try fighting them. Were in another race for influence this time in North Africa, against a much more formidable foe! By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Slowly head towards Samarkand by expanding Ajam. You wouldn't have much issue at all. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. It shouldn't be hard man .. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. Hit them early and try to divide their territory works great. You need to win those navy encounters fast. Focus on taking away their economic base. I prefer to leave Ethiopia alone for most of the run, and simply conquer around them. Cookie Notice Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. Wait for an opportunity. After that you can trucebreak and catch their troops between you and and the rebels. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. Personally, to me all of this necessary micro is the worse aspect of the game and what drives me away from it the most. You'll generally need a good amount of mercenaries. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. Before declaring war, see if there are any vassals you can annex. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. great project. If Ajam gets too big or runs out of cores, integrate them and expand with new vassals, like Fars, Khorasan, Afghanistan, and Transoxiana. They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. Those penalties are insignificant compared to being able to remove them quickly. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. Alternatively, you may be able to ally with Russia. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. I easily beat them, even stack wiping them sometimes. Your vassal may have some cores left in my case, Makuria had a core on Dongola, so use that and declare war. If you're a relatively powerful nation like PLC, Hungary, Austria, castille, etc, you can just straight up declare war and beat them before they get big. This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! We cant have that! all are full except expansion. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. I usually like to set out goals. Gotta love EU4 logic. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. Occupy all provinces except one. I always have this anxiety about attacking them; even though they fold like paper tigers every time. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. Thanks for the help :). You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. If youre allied to Naples, call them in only now. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. You can also try bringing other people in on your war. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. The mera can also gain land rights, but they have more important modifiers right now, such as the integration of nobility and stronger duchies. start again as france and take beter ideas and no CB byzantium early. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. Just tried this out but the blasted PLC AI was hell bent on losing and had to delete the save since I'd already given up half my country to separate peace Aragon. If they have a weaker ally (Tunis is often good for this), DOW on them; this will drag Ottos in, but without the benefit of their powerful allies. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. How else am I supposed to stop them if I can't use military force? All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. To maximize your trade income, consider addingWealth of Nations to your DLC list! I knew espionage as last idea group and I figured it wasn't worth it, but wanted to try it anyway for fun. Quite manageable. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy, which screws kebab over pretty hard. Currently Spain. Be ready to play defensively if Ottoman decides to choose you. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. To fully take advantage of their situation, you should wait until they are engaged in a war. Integrate the vassal after theyve cored all of Sudan for you since hanging on to Ethiopia will be trouble for them. Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations Release Trailer, In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. The Mamluks sit on the main trade nodes directing trade from India and China to Europe. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. Once call for peace is sounded, you should peace out after a few months as it quickly becomes too expensive in dip to maintain. You can now also complete the mission. . You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. Ottomans should get . This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, takeNaval Ideasto give yourself an edge. For the nations you choose to play and the courses you chart for those nations. Take Crimea. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? How do I win a war against them? As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. FML. As many as you can. , but dont complete them just yet. Now observe the situation. Thing is, I don't think there is an easy fix to this because, as I said, optimal play happenes as a consequence of how the game is designed. 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