Briscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. Character always has to come first in hiring, then competence, and then chemistry. I appreciate your feedback. But now my faith in the whole institution is shattered. You formed a nonprofit corporation. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. and Im going to butcher the title. And really, I came back to the Lord at Willow and He used that church to help me reestablish my relationship with Him and with His church. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Petes teaching and emphasis on the sufficiency of Christ leaves an indelible mark on so many of our souls. Bent Tree is a multi site mega church in the Dallas Fort Worth area thats had its own share of crises over the past several years. They didnt have the ability to respond to new issues as they arose. This is what manifests. Just what I call a deformed leadership culture at the church where certain things became acceptable that shouldnt. Please note, our website requires JavaScript to be supported. When the when the mans lying on the side of the road, naked and bleeding, theyre the priests who cross the street. And this is whats so difficult. Ive asked that question many times. Why did so many look the other way for so long? Hes a complex character. But when we look at it from some practical ways that God used people to undo this, explain what you see as being the key forces. Thats one of the things that attracted me to it is that he would admit something that he had failed, like, I remember one Wednesday night at a midweek service, and he got up and he said how that day he had seen somebody who was, you know, he could tell that they were upset and in need, and he just walked right by the person and totally blew them off. That was my upbringing. Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. In another area, it might be used to groom someone and use vulnerability as a mechanism to draw people into something that is corrupt. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. (See page 54 and following) When I came onto our board, the terms that Pete Briscoe used were, guide, govern and guard. And I think policy governance has the governing part. And I think Christian leaders need to start stepping up. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. And something else that you mentioned about the board, which I found fascinating was that the Willow Creek board had an awful lot of lawyers on it. But essentially, it was the board being asked to deal with matters of policy and then all matters of implementation really get left to the vocational staff in the church. So, while I have strong feelings about this, as you can imagine being a lawyer, but at all points, legal advice has to be subservient to Scripture. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. And you you actually refer to it as multi-level marketing. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. These little bitty people, from Willows perspective, who helped win the PR back, its a miracle. And its so important, I think, for any of us who are doing any kind of ministry at all, if we get our identity wrapped up in what were doing, then what were doing is no longer ministry, its no longer service to the Lord. This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. When you say the IT department, its my understanding you came into some information about emails getting destroyed. And its not something you can control like traditional mainstream media. And yet, they lost the PR battle, which is unbelievable. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both And thats what, thats what you end up protecting right? But you had said you had gotten this manual and it was about, you know, basically how to be an elder and how to lead. Explain that. Absolutely horrible. When you think about the economic reach of an organization that was that size within evangelicalism, my goodness, even Christianity Today was scared to run articles about it. The outside investigation report said something along the lines of, Bill Hybels hundreds or thousands of emails with this woman were, not available. Well, as it turns out my understanding from talking to witnesses, those emails were actually destroyed. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. Theyve got a little bit of the guide part. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. I hope you have a great day and God bless. And I think it wasnt a problem, Mitch, because everybody always agreed with whatever the senior pastor wanted. And I had a wonderful experience. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? I understand that the desire to have elders dealing with what Ill call Echelon or tier level, theological topics: What does the church think about, you know, for example, racial reconciliation? And sadly, I think they have still. This is a calling. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. Bill Hybels and Bill Clinton, you know, developed a friendship over the years that at least what Ive discovered in my research, there was an invitation for Clinton to come and speak at the Global Leadership Summit, and a confrontation with the elder board about that because Clinton was on the heels of an adultery scandal. It is. At least, thats how I saw it. Yeah, thats right. That is not a matter of policy. Yet Mitch isnt just the lawyer whos seen megachurches as an outsider bringing accountability. They made a lot of friends a lot of money over the years selling books, promoting programs, platforming them at conferences, platforming them at the Global Leadership Summit. But what happens when there is a sheep within the flock who needs to be defended? Jill You know, Willow creeks pastors family members benefit from the Penumbra of Willow Creek and its just sheer size within evangelicalism. And I think there is a healthy fear. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. But at 22, I completely bought it. Through Petes teaching on Sundays and through various conversations with other staff members during the week, God shifted my perspective on what it means to live life in Christ one from my own efforts to please God to one of Christs efforts on my behalf to love me deeply, extravagantly, and permanently. Im against too many lawyers, and I think Im in a position to critique this. But if you have a pastor with a glaring character flaw youre fooling yourself if you think youre gonna keep that character flaw in line with a pastor who doesnt put Jesus Christ first in his life, am I right? I think one of the things that happens in churches, from a deformed leadership standpoint, is requiring boards to operate in unanimity or using unity as a cudgel against people who have firm convictions about things. And where does whats legally expedient for our organization? And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. But it really had the tone has to be set by leadership for a culture of goodness. It took a variety of forms. I learned that from Bill. Really what it is, Julie, if we want to get down to it and go to spiritual or biblical terms, these are these are works of the flesh when were not led by the Spirit. How do spot a safe pastorand can. Tell us what you learned through you know, bringing this person to light, confronting him and dealing with the entire situation that we can learn from as a church. I was blown away. And so I hope your listeners understand what I mean, when I say this, thats how good God is that he can use people who are even morally bankrupt, to bring people to himself. And the thing that is astonishing to me, you used the issue of emotional vulnerability is that, you know, a lot of times our strengths are our weaknesses. If you go back through Willow Creeks archives, you can see all the, you know, the authors of books who came in and were platformed at Willow Creek. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. 1 talking about this. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. Amen. So thanks again. It started as a simple tape duplication ministry in a home basement, using a reel-to-reel tape recorder linked to a dozen smaller recorders to duplicate the Briscoes' teaching. And in the few times Ive spoken with him, I found his insights to be profound. Pete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrysteaching team from 2003 to 2021. Serving in the role of elder is a huge responsibility. They know there would be swift and sure discipline, if not firing, even with one mistakedepending on the severity of the misbehavior. And not elevated above it. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. May God lead your next steps and may you find ways to use your gifts from a place of health. I was a member of WCCC for many years. Thats a bad default state. He makes sure the good things stay in the church and the bad things go out. You know, people like Dee Parsons, Julie Anne Smith, Julia Dahl, and people who I knew would not stop talking about it and would not stop talking about it for months. And the thing about predators, Bill Hybels included, okay, is they start to do more things in public to condition you to behavior that is inappropriate, and they test their boundaries, to see what they can get away with. I have been a child of God since I was four and in ministry most of my life. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe What is it that causes so many people who know better, to look the other way and allow evil to prosper? Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. And when I came into the representation, that was a new term to me, Id never heard anything like it. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. Well, and I hope there are Christian leaders listening to this who take note because is the time of just being silent and thinking that because youre silent, nothing will come back on you, thats past. And if you dont have a character to lead, no manual is going to help you. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. Amen. Theyre not holding anybody accountable then. But it just has not really looked like true repentance in so many ways. But as you say its Gods grace that despite all that hes used these men to bless many, despite everything. Is that right? Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Yeah, totally agree. I wasnt throughout the representation. Heres to better days and better church health. Likewise. Yeah. God uses the faithful and generous support of people like you to continue to change lives through the ministry of Telling the Truth. And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. The thing that is so terrifying is that someone who has been a senior pastor in an organization like that is not beyond it. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. It is not a program is not a set of services. Vanilla orchids are actually pollinated by hand in most places. So Im guessing youre not against lawyers being on board. I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. But lets talk about since were talking about the media, Willow Creek had unbelievable resources at its disposal, right. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2, https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both Its about serving God. Inside their system, they need to be guarded, governed, guided. And if you are not willing to as an organism, or as an organization say, We messed up. If you want to know what grooming looks like in the context of church, every elder at a church of any size should read this book. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. So Im very much looking forward to our time together today. And it turns out there were a lot more women who had been affected by Bill Hybels. But other than that, you know, there just werent a lot of people in the larger church speaking and there had to have been a lot of church leaders who knew about what was going on and knew that there were problems with Bill Hybels. 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