Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation. ), Interesting suggestion. She was not in the car when her children were shot. After six weeks in Oregon where the children were happily spending time with their grandparents while Diane worked her postal route, the incident happened on a dark road that led to Diane being accused of murder and attempted murder. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. If the answer is, revenge, then it has been achieved. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. How was DD able to get away from CK and get the keys back into the ignition without there being more attempts on her life? The strong, emotive language. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. 2. So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie Small Sacrifices was known for her epic battles with lover Ryan ONeil. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession: inflammatory It took months to get Christie to say that her mother was the culprit and that is when they arrested Diane. The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile. Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. woman quot~ unquote, do you remember anything like that? He strung her along, played with both womens emotions, and after saying he would join her in Oregon, reneged and stayed with his wife. Robert Schlosser, Cathy's father, lives in a 900 . It was pitch black outside. In the blog, there is a link on the subject of bipolar people who tend to laugh at the wrong time. And to say that her mental health has degraded is an understatement, but more reason not to keep her eternally incarcerated. As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice. She never hurt anyone in the process of escaping. The way Christie was coached did not correspond to the reality of the direct evidence. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. But I am more than willing to review any new info. Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. #corrupt. When a unicorn and hungry like the wolf make their way into a court room during a high profile trial, its a red flag. I feel sorry for Diane too. She wrote to the governor several times after being dismissed coldly by Hugi and the system. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Hardly circumstantial or coincidental what are the chances that a bushy haired stranger, masked men, or someone that knew her (take your pick from Dianes ever shifting account) would have the exact same bullets matching to bullets from a gun owned by Diane ? She (Diane) managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. Oh my. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. In Oregon, in 1983, she shot her 3 children, 1 daughter died. I write about cases where due process is in question and important aspects were ignored or twisted. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. Once again, Diane said a lot of things. Diane had siblings and parents. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. Dianes story does not contradict that. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Mr. Jagger failed to challenge that competency. Page 40 of Case History. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. She was extremely intelligent but her emotional IQ was no match and her desire for freedom, love and affection were dangerously dragging her down a path of self-destruction. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. There was no question in Dianes mind that Knick would take another mistress if she married him, and that hed move on again. Not hard to go there. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. The person leaned into the car. What this is evidence of is one more piece of the overwhelming amount of bias that was involved from the start of the case. She did it. Diane herself stated Cheryl was asleep on the front floorboard completely covered up with Dianes jacket how the hell did a stranger or a hitman(one of Dianes OTHER stories) KNOW Cheryl was there. In Rules book, Diane is portrayed as a horrible selfish mother but her family and friends saw another version; she lovedher childrendearly and worked hard to be a good provider. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. A number of them were clearly . This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. Moms were working more, we were becoming the latch key generation, as in we let ourselves in alone while still in elementary school.when I mentioned before about maturity of a 8, 9, 10 year oldwe loved playing outside on bikes, and playing with our dolls, boys usually had their action figures..lol.and we loved our moms, even if they were young and liked to go out and sent us to babysitters..the book and movie, Im quite sure, over did the situation..and Im sure there was more on both sides, the family of diane, diane herself, but well never know all the details. Diane is not a killer or a liar! A fact strongly denied by Diane and by the nurses reports. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. Your prayers were answered. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. They were treated very badly in this matter. When you hear her in interviews she sounds more concerned with herself than her kids. That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. It isnt there all the time. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. Not even the gun. Then, they accused her of shooting her kids at close range. Its more boring to tell the truth and the readers might not have flocked to read a fair story without no real heroes and villains. The fact that she took the kids to the nearest hospital, andtwo of them survived kind offlies in the face of their murder at all costs theory. Dianes family could give you countless examples of the inaccuracies they found in her book. Saudi Princesses in Captivity for More Than a Thousand and One Nights Are Tweeting the Blues, Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled, Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. I go fishing with a jurors husband. I do not believe that this type of abuse would occur today. Sonny arrives at his restaurant and gives Dex, who is there, the night off. It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America. The police admitting on the stand that after 2 weeks, they stopped looking at suspects appears to be a fact. We cant. And being the mother of three only served to propel Diane in a more manic state. If they could not find the gun or any trace of a shooting on Diane, and you think shes guilty, it would mean she had an accomplice. The fact that the DA adopted the children, since it was after the trial, is more of a gray area. It seems that a lot of what was written down never came up during testimony and some nurses even strayed from the original content. Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain. There is her story, the prosecution case and the defense arguments. I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. 2.Diane herself has stated that the shooter was outside the car and shot THROUGH the window, no blood spatter. TIL On May 19, 1983, Diane Downs shot her three children and drove them at 5-7 mph to the hospital. Evidence or not, they were going to do their best to put her away for life. I also wish that Dianes children have a great life. Instead of talking about her being locked up for so long, answer some very legitimate questions regarding this case. But you sure did comment like a true asshole, huh? But you would know that if you had read the blog or info about the case. I saw that same face in Diane Downs. Either way he could NOT have seen who shot him unless he has eyes in the back of his head. No worries. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. Years later, seven witnesses signed affidavits telling of a man named Jim Haynes continuing confessionthat he wasthe shooter, and his appearance boresimilarities to the sketch. I agree on many points with your comment. Crime is entertainment and big money so this case will continue to be on the forefront and the same assumptions will be repeated over and over again. (Appendix 81, page 1466). But I will answer the points you raised about the blog. Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. He failed. I remember when it was in the news. The roller coaster ride had nothing to do with Diane s children and Diane knew it. It means you dont orphan the kids. Diane now had the title of dangerous offender. I had never heard of this case before I read her book (Im not from or do not live in the USA), but I found myself constantly despairing at the authors unfounded judgements and wild suppositions. Mr. Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. Ginsburg didn't think women should get to do what men did because she believed they would do the job better; she wanted equality for its own liberating sake. The woman shot her children. And it is not like these two were white as snow. This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. Now in hindsight, seeing footage on youtube, especially the interview she did with the reporter Anne Jagger, the things she says and facial expression is exactly described in the bookhad to find the section in the book, but on that note, Anne rule did site that interview correctly. Page 35 of Case History. It is beyond belief that the State of Oregon allowed the prosecutor to adopt those children. What a terrible injustice. Again thats opinion, and neither balanced nor objective. But saying that you are not very smart is useless. According to the state, the shooter was well inside the car and would have had gun powder on its clothing, body or hair if 3 people were shot in the car at close distance. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. But if you compare them, and if stranger there was, there are similarities but it is not dead on. Some would say that Diane Downs was condemned because of her lies and inconsistencies, but I think that it was mostly because of her disturbing demeanor and brash personality. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. You hit the nail right on the head. (her family confirmed that she had a mood disorder, possibly bipolar 2), So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis.. 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