bullet wounds? Believe it or not -- *I* work for the government. What does this look like? Posted by John Titor on 02-08-2001 06:59 PM. ))Ok, here's were we had a failure in communication. As for proof, I don't think any is forthcoming that would be "conclusive". ))My first opportunity to go home is this spring. Posted by Javier Cortez on 02-21-2001 02:53 PM, How about giving an estimate in how long they will have to wait to get an answer to their questions . The mind is the ultimate vessel for any kind of exploration . Think again. You seem to think I have tomorrow's paper in front of me. Indeed, you are very convincing with your stories of what you claim will be, but unless you actually *prove* who you claim to be, quit wasting our timeyou may as well be beating your head against the wall. I believe there is an organized force of evil that works against God's plan for men's souls. What company were you with, and what year did you graduate from BCT? We're all adult, thinking (free thinking) individuals who have the right to whatever beliefs we wish in this day and age, regardless of our gender, religious believes, race or even in my humble opinion, nationality.In other words a skeptic is a good thing to be. timetravel_0-Depending on weather or not you are going forward or backward, the footprint of the unit is different. The story John tells is sobering, realistic, and ENTERTAINING. Why is that John, somehow you managed to pay your way to get on the air? (7)What is the speed of the average computer in the future? The "temporal divergence" you mention makes it an easy answer for every probing question. " MKs will go on to build the global infrastructure of the information age, the new transportation systems and the new municipal infrastructures. . My reason for straddling the fence at this time is that. There is a patch. Not you, not John, not anyone.In a game of chess you have to either kill your oponent or chip away at his defenses until you trap him and he gives up. If you truly wished to do this your first line would not have been, 'I am a time-traveller'. geez..why do you isolate that one question? If your life became a sort of "Hell" anyway, would it matter if the Antichrist was real?I became aware of this bulletin board through my various archiving work through the web. The manual also is what you would expect from the military. John mentions the Big War(2015) was between the Cities of America (the enemy of John) and Russia, China, etc. Posted by Lola Montez on 02-19-2001 08:13 PM, How do I find the pictures and manual pages you are speaking of? ((I would imagine there are folk in our time, who travel in different circles (out of the mainstream), who have some money and/or some power, and who know things that the rest of us do not. "They were demonstrating the rebirth of Russia's military might. ( 3 billion people dead a "good" thing?)5. )), Posted by Benedict Gumby on 02-13-2001 11:07 AM, You still haven't answered my question from page 8 ((What is the result of the duplicates arriving ~simultaneously at the ~same place and time?)). ))I'm not sure I exactly said that.((2. Well if that's the case then being masters of mass production they should have made millions of them because EVERYONE would want one. ))I submit there is no way for me to prove anything on the internet, therefore it makes no sense to desire it. ))The people with the most to lose if the world changes -Camel through the eye of a needle? Anway, 'scuze me. I have nothing but open-mindedness for religious conversation and I look forward to more. Rather I too have asked direct questions and placed challenges to all time travelers.Further, any segmented regular writing of this nature on any BBS will create natural discrepencies -- even I suspect in your own and mine to boot. How long does WWIII last.Where is the safest place in the US to be. Posted by Kennith Viccars on 02-12-2001 07:50 PM. pamelaPosted by Javier Cortez on 02-21-2001 08:06 PMPamela, Posted by Blonnie Dowden on 02-12-2001 09:53 AM. }:P, Posted by John Titor on 02-13-2001 11:23 AM, ((I just have this to ask you. The mind is the ultimate vessel for any kind of exploration . would you just appear But, in the spirit of our friend- feel free to I find that fact to be rather hard for people to get along with so I don't bring it up directly. Pamela: 8.has the device been tested on ships and airplanes? Recently, the most convincing has been things I've learned in my study of physics, of all things . Topic Search: Time Travel, Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-20-2001 09:57 AM. "By the way, not to be picky or anything. this is a very interesting forum. ((If I was transposed to the 1920's or 30's, you would have a hard time keeping me off the streets, out of public places, shops, concert halls, etc. If you want to leave a meassage to yourself in the future, please feel free to do so. They are not false, based on speculative facts or exaggerated. Unless they are just conjecturing to impress you, and don't really know much more than you do.If they did they would go to jail for telling you. what city were you born in/grew up in? Yes, I am pondering posting more of the manual. Are there same sex marriages? "3 years old.. yes. Of course, I've left my physics book in the time machine so unless you snuck in a hidden land-mine, I found your opening move very straightforward. If they thought for a second that you were for real, they would be on your ass so fast, and your "Time Machine" would be in the hands of the US military my friend.I'm about 99.9% skeptical, but I do like the odd sci-fi story, and enjoy your writing. It's interesting how easy it is to be fixated on the "machine" itself without any curiosity about many of the support systems. Cause if so, I'm there! I'm just not up on music, Hollywood and sports in the year 2001. Instead you tell us that you only wish us to make us aware of time-travel as a possiblity (see #1 again), or that you only wish to observe us and speak of cultural and religious issues, something interesting to a historian.You came and posted on this site with one intention that was clear as of your first post: to make us believe that you are a time-traveller. Interesting that no one ever asks which stocks to sell. He is unaware or dislikes "buy in" or "buy that" Let's say he's writing a book. I'll get to the other questions soon. Vega and Mr. Hendrickson:The wonderful ability for the human mind to group things by simularities, generalize, and vaguely remember stories heard in the past exists.But it is not conclusive proof of the falsity of anybodies claims.I, as an attempted-authorer (pretty simular to being an attempted-murderer), have ran into the 'universal hero myth' dillema face to face, in mental combat to the death . Is any of this a result of your expiriences with biological warfare? ( Ok, here we have a basic statement)2. I'm a big believer in grassroots resourcefulness, and its power in creating discerning situations that test people's willingness and ability to make their own way.It seems to me that with the cities under such stresses, people would flock in large numbers to remote areas like Winnipeg (sorry guys) or some other region with plenty of clean water, air and soil. I hope it is true. How many feet out from the car would you say it goes?Timetravel_0-It can be adjusted to some degree. who wants to discuss time travel, physics, or the time of day, with a lynch mob. Get a clue!I suggest that if he is an attention monger hoaxer, he got you. Yes he is well spoken, and has a pleasant manner in how he presents him self. The fact is there is nothing I can say or show you or let you drop hydrochloric acid on that will "make" you believe me and I really don't want that. There's a lot in this world we don't know.. everything from creatures, to diseases to even time travel. It should be child's play for you and a fundamental part of ANY TT machine. (2). It is well thought-out and consistent so far. you say: By using two microsingularites in close proximity to each other, it is possible to create, manipulate and alter the Kerr fields to create a Tipler gravity sinusoid. The fourth, time, is traveling away from us as precisely the same rate as it was a few moments ago. I'll get the 1981 me pushed out of the way with a 1981 broom or something. )). if so, what are their thoughts on you?6) Does time have ends?7) Lets just say that people from the future are manipulating events now, such as preventing a tragedy, making it never occur. I have some experts looking at the manual and the pictures as well -- for obvious reasons, I won't tell you who because they aren't aware of this discussion and I don't intend to tell them about it. I would never insult or degrade someone's religious views. LolaPosted by Javier Cortez on 02-21-2001 11:18 AMHow am I being hostile? This distance remains constant for fixed displacements of the origin. there are a few that's all then we just enhance the content to fit our cultural needs.PeacePosted by Randy Empey on 02-18-2001 11:36 AMMr. Why do you feel that would be unchangeable?CRAIG:((Are you being obtuse about Bonnie's inquiries for more personal reasons? You may be interested to know that even in 2036, there are a large number of people who don't believe in time travel. ((John, what would it take to get you to stick around after spring and leave during the next window of opportunity? His site is listed below.Rick02/15/01 -- Thu/FriGuest: Richard C. HoaglandBook: The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever Uploaded by you only discuss things that you care about or that -you- think are important or that -you- think you will "gain" something from. Is it possible to go back 60 years and then another 60 years?2) Have the people of your time proved the "worldline theory?" If it never occured, no body would be sent back to stop it, which would mean that the event does take place. Thinking about it now I sort of wonder what it would be like to be a teenager now and know the answer to that question. Ghz is not a useful measurement. Personally I find this thread interesting, without a lot of the just totally putting John down. Is VR legal? Since it would not affect my home anyway, it would be rather pointless. I believe we are judged on the decisions we make as individuals and the good/evil I see on my worldline is an illusion that has no worth to God. I am no But I think I can provide a brief response to your questions to promote further conversation here. I only submitted it here so John didnt have to explain it all over again. I would show it to you but it only comes out when I am alone. I like to think of it as standing in a room with mirrors on the walls and the apparent "me" in the room next to mine steps into the room from his. It also had no connection to John Titor, I was actually disagreeing with the previous poster that stated that the Farmer General metaphor somehow was indicative of deception on Johns part, or a weak link in his story. Are there equal rights? My next questions would be "what about knowledge?" >>The only problem is, now you have to trust the person who brings the information forward. ))I'm sure I would end up in one of their nice little padded cells while they poked at my machine with a screwdriver. Just look back at most of the major advancements in science, almost every invention of science already existed, it only needed people to put it together. IMHOHinted that he may have had something to do with recent events that did not come to pass.An accurate depiction of the climate that would escalate to the wars and events he describes.Made statements that contradict many other Time Traveller's And then emailing me your user name abcs_123s@hotmail.com , thanks! Imagine being squished and stretched at the same time. noble ends. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is NOT Earth.. it's space. I think that was a desprate move on your part. You may also consider the possibility that a world with no war is far less desirable in the long run. You can drive to a video store and rent it. I understand your frustration, you want your questions answered.If I were John I would not answer your questions either or skirt them. The second point I can illustrate with an interesting story. The Local Group, superclusters and on out how fast are they traveling? At least that's a start and I respect my opponent on his polite yet quiet concession on the other thread. because the actual facts (the conversations) can't be verified.I have lived such a story and I know I could never prove it to anyone's satisfaction, yet it really happened to me, I was nearly killed. If you can take that paragraph and find a way to make a dollar from it than more power to you. ?John -- Thanks for your replies.Does the sense of "here and now" continue for you in 2036, while you are here?IS your sense of "timing" off, in new time environments? . I have drafted a letter indicating I'm interested. Yes I am free but I have obligations as a citizen. Posted by Heather Cattles on 02-14-2001 03:40 PM. back, at least, to Roman times. Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-14-2001 07:18 AM. 15. It affects him.)). But that's not important, what is, is your answers John.I'm still waiting. When I walk around in 2001, the air smells clean but I wonder if it really is. and on)Posted by Sally Stanton on 02-12-2001 08:16 PMTalkingWatch me pull a rabbit out of Ong's Hat! Posted by Javier Cortez on 02-14-2001 07:48 PM. You, of course, are allowed to censor yourself and direct the conversation by what you choose to respond to and say.It may intrest you to read some of the other threads on this bbs, the ones about other topics, like religion . it costs Even if John never posts again, this thread would still seem to be useful . I would probably characterize it the same way you see coverage of Waco, Ruby Ridge and Elian Gonzalez. Even if there IS fraud, I personally am impressed with the background. You mentioned earlier (I don't know if it were hypothetical) that you were sent to change something here in 2000 or 2001, were you succesful? If you mean military, the world has developed into an odd balance. quarter master who distributes clothing appropriate to where (a summary of a question) "he was only 3 years old now..how would -he- know what the next big movement in music was?". and you are using a time-travel machine. Nothing I do here will affect my home. When I talk about the Second Amendment to them, they get all upset and scream and yell how no one should have guns and if there were no guns there would be no crime or war. I merely said it would be a subject of discussion when I return. What kind of criminals are in them?What kind of public punishment is there? It may interest you to know that my father still does not truly believe the machine works even after touching and seeing it. ))I'd really like to believe thatRICK: (until I get time to read up). Thank you for getting to some of my questions. You know, the one's chaired by graduates of MIT, Princeton, Yale, Stanford? I'm sure it's there. Sharing scientific theories of Time Travel to your past, which is our present .3. Kerr singularity (sort of looks like an eye with gravity waves around it) Later this year, one of two favorable windows will open and I will return to my 2036 (35 yrs.) Have you considered that I might already have accidentally screwed up your worldline? I have went back and looked up that post you mentioned. I'm certain I have spelling errors. What is your form of government? And did you enjoy them. ((You answered them like a politician would, and that's by stepping around the truth without actually lying. We do need to level the playing field so it would be helpful if you would agree to a few "rules of sportsmanship" (pardon the P.I. I claim no such moderatorship -- I was just attempting to appeal to everybodies sense of 'proper actions during mutually-benificial social interactions' (I hate it when I can't find the right, single word to say what I want to say . In my experience, evil may be powerful, but they aren't very bright. We don't know what's on Mars yet.14. not revel themselves? You have continued this thread for that purpose alone, and I find everything you have done supports this. ((Are you married? If I said I will do something, you know I will do it. Let's say everyone here agreed John was a fake. Welcome back. Although, if you consistently tell of near-future events, you will rightly gain all our respect, and we will be hanging off your every word, As I said, I want to beleive, but don't give us the typical "I don't need to prove myself, I am not here to do that" Well you should be!Why come on here and spend all that time with your stories, if everyone discounts you as a crackpot. Is there one grand reality, or is it 'to each his own'? The account of Satan in Ezekiel 28 could well involve aspects of both these meanings. I have already benefited from it as I believe you have, and many others. (HA! "Let's say that John is a "confused person" would it not be kinder to help him regain his senses, than to attack him. The picture of those old typewriters with those hilarious screen magnifiers just sticks in my head. )). ((Is propane still around in the future? My reason for straddling the fence at this time is that.No one here has presented any evidence either way that would be conclusive. What is that supposed to mean? Its important that it remain as still as possible so the gravity sensors can get a good lock. This is the main reason he is following some very specific "non interference" doctrine.The very fact that John has made himself "visible" to the users here makes him a target. "The experiences, opinions and reasons you do things are just as valid as mine and just as different. (In spite of Star Trek storylines). I believed I wrote about Australia a bit earlier. End of exchange no more platform. I can't tell you what music is popular in the next few years because the "me" here is only three years old. I'm assuming you are all aware that China has millions of male soldiers right now that they know will never be able to find wives. ((I guess you are held accountable, in some way, for changes that occur in your time period..)). Is the same type of currency used? To the physicists and physics enthusiasts. I'm not sure you would like 2036 very much.Posted by Matt Hagemeier on 02-06-2001 02:33 PMJohn, the life you desrribe in 2036, sounds very much like life my grandparents described in the WW2 era. In other words, John is NOT the same John he is visiting now, as his 3 year old self. and this new distance s (remember s stands for Space-time) does indeed remain constant for all who are in relative motion. I wouldn't expect John to either. Please tell me your opnion why this is interesting and worth remembering for 30 years. To hear you take such a stance is laughable. (just kidding) Thanks for the answers. Recently, the most convincing has been things I've learned in my study of physics, of all things . I would show it to you but it only comes out when I am alone. MSN? If I had a secret agenda, talking to people would not be part of it. . 4:1, 5, 8, 11; 13:39; 25:41; Luke 4:2, 3, 6, 13; 8:12; John 8:44; 13:2; Acts 10:38; 13:10; Eph. Is Chevy still making time travel machines in 2036? Your welcome to stay at my place.Posted by Javier Cortez on 02-21-2001 08:01 AMWhy is that John, somehow you managed to pay your way to get on the air? (6) Is it possible for you to bump into yourself when you are time travelling? My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. General Noonan was only there for ten days during the last Civil War. Ask me almost anything. (1) Industrialized mass production does not produce the uncountable tonnage of useless consumer items so gleefully absorbed by your society. And see how he suddenly goes quiet because he is exposed.http://www.xone.net/tti/board/ubbhtml/Forum1/HTML/000433.htmlAnd also see the discrepancy's in his story. I believe if you're really what you say you are -- then you're a hope for the future. Isn't this the same type of reasoning used by debunkers against anything THEY find unreasonable? Well anyway, back to the subject matter. Such is life in the slow lane with us mere mortals. ((Potential Hazard of being a Time Traveler -- Always putting things off until you can "get back" to doing them. As one twin approaches the event horizon or edge of the black hole, the other twin will watch him as he appears to slow down. So you're this Time Traveler from the year 2036 who somehow managed to learn perfect English while fighting a war. As Captain Kirk once said to his crew after the battle with Khan, "he is thinking in two dimensions only" we are thinking in three only. I'm not sure I understand this. We cannot see the entire universe as God sees it therefore we will never be Gods or be capable of judging anything outside of ourselves. Posted by Robert A. Cook on 02-08-2001 05:42 PM. I hope to return home with a better understanding of why you think and believe the way you do. In case anyone is interested is looking at them. If it is to protect the rest of us, that isn't necessary. I don't understand all the personal attacks.Let's say that John is a "confused person" would it not be kinder to help him regain his senses, than to attack him.Let's say he's writing a book. Thanks, Posted by Pamela Moore on 02-20-2001 03:20 PM, ((I assume you have all of this archived from another BBS or something?)). Hydrogen is converted into propane because it's easier to handle.ROY:((I would hope that the paradise I live in would somehow be spared (the Hawaiian Islands) but I suspect it would not be spared as a strategic target for obvious reasons))My parents went to Hawaii on their Honeymoon. Plus, History books from that time would probably contain things about the war from 2005, possibly things leading up to the war. Mr. John the time merchant is he selling truth or lies?? Get equal pay? The guy is Dr. Anderson. .I am fairly certain that proving anything is impossible. The next question is religion, if time travel is possible, what does that do to the reilgious? Is race mixing allowed? ((if time travel is possible, what does that do to the reilgious? ((1. 62 votes, 35 comments. And that's how you got asked to be apart of this Time Travel project in the first place. Ask me more questions if you want. ))I suppose I am thinking about the physics and the engineering as separate subjects. awaiting your findings What do they think of your use of the equipment for personel reasons? Hey John "great story" when does the book come out. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance. I can't wait to see what the future holds.I want to LIVE time though, I don't want to go to the future and not be able to get back to my family and friends. Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-15-2001 08:31 AM. I suppose I could lie and make something up but what's the point? MSN? "from this i suppose that you mean, that yes, you could & possibly have affected our 'worldline'.. & our worldline is different from -your- worldline.. if this is true then why do you keep telling us about the ww3..etc.. how do you know that will even -happen- in our worldline? Sorry folks, too many holes (not black holes) in this theory. It makes sense that one would think they are, but.. who has time? John has already suggested this, it seems to me, and I believe it is everybody's best interest to recognize that we have never been in the realm of absolutes and that the main goal here is the intelligent exchange of ideas, observations, insights and 'feelings'.Just because a plot appears often in the worlds portrayed in science fiction doesn't preclude them from being what you seem to consider science fact.Spacecraft are a prime example of this.Timecraft ARE ALSO!The mind is the ultimate vessel for any kind of exploration . The real energy is in creating the machine, not operating it. Posted by Ernie Vega on 02-08-2001 09:39 PM. A mentally disturbed individual enjoying his 15 minutes of Fame? John Titor shared a lot of information. If there are "fail safes" on such a device, the device's power would have to be backed up multiple times, and then STILL FUNCTION (to 'rotate the craft out of this time line') to save the existing time line from major problems.Sorry folks, too many holes (not black holes) in this theory. What is relevant is the ideas, and very good technical information being discussed here. I seriously doubt the CIA or FBI has the man power or the time to do it. I also found John's post regading the specifics to be beyond much contention. Given this we can calcuate the exact location based on several factors, knowing the current location of the sun, the past location of the sun and then figuring the future location of the sun. When are you going back? 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